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		<title>Backing up/ripping a blu-ray disc</title>
		<link>http://www.oyvindhauge.com/blog/2011/08/28/backing-upripping-a-blu-ray-disc/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2011 06:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Øyvind Hauge</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Technology]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Tv and movies]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[AnyDVD HD]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Blu-ray]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[A while back I started to back up my DVD collection using Linux (dvdbackup and Handbrake). For Blu-ray disks I have unfortunately not found any good solutions for Linux and only open source software. Therefore, this guide will show how you may back up your Blu-rays on the MS Windows platform, using AnyDVD HD, BDInfo, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A while back I started to <a title="Backing up DVDs under Linux" href="http://www.oyvindhauge.com/blog/2010/09/19/backing-upripping-dvds-in-linux/">back up my DVD collection</a> using Linux (<a title="dvdbackup" href="http://dvdbackup.sourceforge.net/">dvdbackup</a> and <a title="Handbrake" href="http://handbrake.fr/">Handbrake</a>). For Blu-ray disks I have unfortunately not found any good solutions for Linux and only open source software. Therefore, this guide will show how you may back up your Blu-rays on the MS Windows platform, using <a title="AnyDVD HD" href="http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvdhd.html">AnyDVD HD</a>, <a title="BDInfo" href="http://www.cinemasquid.com/blu-ray/tools/bdinfo">BDInfo</a>, <a title="EAC3to" href="http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=125966">Eac3to </a>(inkluding <a title="Eac3to and More Gui" href="http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=135095">Eac3to and More GUI</a>) and <a title="tsMuxer" href="http://www.smlabs.net/en/products/tsmuxer/">tsMuxer</a>.</p>
<h3>1. Backup disk and remove copy protection</h3>
<div id="attachment_1547" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.oyvindhauge.com/blog/wp-content/AnyDVD.png"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1547" title="AnyDVD HD" src="http://www.oyvindhauge.com/blog/wp-content/AnyDVD-300x246.png" alt="AnyDVD HD" width="300" height="246" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">AnyDVD HD</p></div>
<p>AnyDVD HD does a good job removing the copy protection and backing up the disk to your hard drive. It is a proprietary piece of software, but I found that a lifetime license was worth the investment (about € 100).</p>
<p>Please note that removing copy protection may be illegal in some countries. In Norway (where I live) it is, to my best understanding, <a title="Åndsverksloven" href="http://lovdata.no/all/hl-19610512-002.html">illegal to circumvent <em>effective</em> copy protection measures</a>. As far as I see it, AnyDVD makes the copy protection on Blu-rays very ineffective. However, there are, to my knowledge, no court orders that defines what effective is. Removing the copy protection may therefore be in the gray area. Nevertheless, I strongly believe consumers should be able to back up their <em>own</em> DVDs and Blu-rays, and use software like <a title="XBMC" href="http://www.xbmc.org">XBMC</a> to manage their media collection.</p>
<h3>2. Identifying the movie streams</h3>
<div id="attachment_1550" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 304px"><a href="http://www.oyvindhauge.com/blog/wp-content/DBInfo.png"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1550" title="DBInfo" src="http://www.oyvindhauge.com/blog/wp-content/DBInfo-294x300.png" alt="DBInfo" width="294" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">DBInfo</p></div>
<p>You may want to store the whole blu-ray with all its files and folders. I am however mainly interested in the main feature itself. To identify the stream(s) that contain(s) the movie I use BDInfo. The first and longest playlist normally contain the stream(s) that constitute the movie. The movie in the screenshot above was contained in only one stream (&#8220;00000.m2ts&#8221;). The streams are always located in the folder &#8220;[movie root]\BDMV\STREAM&#8221;.</p>
<p>If only one stream (<a title=".m2ts" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.m2ts">.m2ts</a> file) contains the whole movie, you may simply store this file where ever you like, and watch it with XBMC or any other viewer you&#8217;d like. If the movie is constituted of several streams you should use tsMuxer to join/append these streams in the order shown in BDInfo.</p>
<p>Please note that the .m2ts container does not contain subtitles and chapters. If you want this you could for instance use the <a title="mkv/Matroska" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matroska">mkv</a> container. However, since I normally do not care about either, I just back up the .m2ts file.</p>
<h3>3. Adding an AC3 sound track and removing unnecessary tracks (optional)</h3>
<div id="attachment_1553" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.oyvindhauge.com/blog/wp-content/Eac3toAC3.png"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1553" title="Eac3toAC3" src="http://www.oyvindhauge.com/blog/wp-content/Eac3toAC3-300x178.png" alt="Eac3toAC3" width="300" height="178" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Eac3toAC3</p></div>
<p>Some players are not able to decode DTS sound tracks. As a consequence of this I normally add an <a title="AC3/Dolby Digital" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Digital">AC3</a> (Dolby Digital) track to my .m2ts containers. This is done by first encoding the DTS to AC3 using Eac3to.</p>
<div id="attachment_1554" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.oyvindhauge.com/blog/wp-content/tsMuxer.png"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1554" title="tsMuxer" src="http://www.oyvindhauge.com/blog/wp-content/tsMuxer-300x221.png" alt="tsMuxer" width="300" height="221" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">tsMuxer</p></div>
<p>Next, create a new .m2ts file by adding (muxing) the newly created .ac3 file to the .m2ts file from the blu-ray. This is done using tsMuxer.</p>
<p>While muxing the two files I normally remove tracks that I do not need. This may be languages, presentation graphics, or video tracks with lower resolution. To remove them, simply uncheck the tracks that you do not want.</p>
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		<link>http://www.oyvindhauge.com/blog/2009/07/05/1076/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 09:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Øyvind Hauge</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Tv and movies]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Action]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Bruce Willis]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Guy Ritchie]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Last Boy Scout]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yesterday, I saw The Last Boy Scout (again) with Bruce Willis and I wonder why they don&#8217;t make these kinds of movies any more. Except from the constant cigarette smoking, I love most things about it. The movie is very far from classical art, but who cares about art? I want entertainment when I see [...]]]></description>
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<p>Yesterday, I saw <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102266/">The Last Boy Scout</a> (again) with Bruce Willis and I wonder why they don&#8217;t make these kinds of movies any more. Except from the constant cigarette smoking, I love most things about it. The movie is very far from classical art, but who cares about art? I want entertainment when I see a movie. In the Last Boy Scout, Bruce Willis is a 100% witty bad ass. I love his rather silly jokes. Maybe I have a sense of 90ies-humour?</p>
<p>Do we have anything similar from the last decade? There are a few which I can think of but they are not as bad ass and not as &#8220;witty&#8221; as the old Bruce Willis movies. I think Guy Ritchie has a few good ones (<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120735/"><span>Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels</span></a>, <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0208092/">Snatch</a>, and <span><a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1032755/">RocknRolla</a>) but they are not the same. Even though Jason Statham is involved in a few other ones besides Snatch (<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0479884/">Crank</a> 1 and 2, <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0293662/">Transporter</a> 1, 2, and 3) he is not that witty as Willis. I also liked <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0465602/">Shoot &#8216;Em Up</a> and <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0936501/">Taken</a> but again they fall short when it comes to the silly jokes.</span></p>
<p><span>If you have any recommendations for pure action-entertainment, please give me a hint.<br />
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		<title>Digital movie rental for the masses, now also in Norway</title>
		<link>http://www.oyvindhauge.com/blog/2009/06/02/digital-movie-rental-for-the-masses-now-also-in-norway/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 06:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Øyvind Hauge</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Technology]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Tv and movies]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Digital Distribution]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Movies]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Xbox]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Finally, it seems we will get a decent movie rental service here in Norway as well. Microsoft announced that they will start (or more correctly expand) their movie rental service in other countries besides the USA. This means that we will be able to enjoy 1080p movies and series with 5.1 sound in Norway as [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, it seems we will get a decent movie rental service here in Norway as well. Microsoft <a href="http://www.xbox.com/en-US/community/events/e3/1080p.htm">announced</a> that they will start (or more correctly expand) their movie rental service in other countries besides the USA. This means that we will be able to enjoy <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p">1080p</a> movies and series with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.1">5.1 sound</a> in Norway as well through our Xbox.</p>
<p>I have previously been impressed by how easy it is to buy and download digital content through either your Xbox or <a href="http://xbox.com/">xbox.com</a>. If the movie rental it is as simple as buying games/game add-ons I am sure it will be a hit. Well, as long as Microsoft is able to get a decent selection of material and as long as the the pricing is right it is going to be a hit.</p>
<p>Microsoft&#8217;s movie on demand and other services like <a href="http://www.hulu.com/">Hulu</a> have not been available here in Norway so far. I have until now used Cdon&#8217;s <a href="http://cdon.no/bredb%C3%A5ndsfilm/">bredbåndsfilm</a> a bit but the selection of movies is not yet good enough. The biggest problem with Cdon&#8217;s offering though is ironically enough their dependency towards Microsoft. Cdon and other services like <a href="http://www.sf-anytime.com">SF Anytime</a> do unfortunately require Windows and Internet Explorer.</p>
<p>Another interesting news is Microsofts <a href="http://www.xbox.com/en-US/community/events/e3/live.htm">Games on Demand</a> (browse down a bit). They do not say anything about Norway but it would be really cool to be able to buy Xbox games and download them over the Internet. However, the Xbox&#8217;s 20GB disk may be a bit of a problem&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Selecting a HTPC/Gaming Case</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Øyvind Hauge</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Building a combined HTPC and gaming rig for the living room is according to a lot of people a stillborn idea. Nevertheless, I have a HDTV and a surround setup and I want to enjoy PC games using it. Where the HTPC is slim, cool and silent the gaming rig is big, powerful and noisy. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;">Building a combined <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTPC">HTPC</a> and gaming rig for the living room is according to a lot of people a stillborn idea. Nevertheless, I have a HDTV and a surround setup and I want to enjoy PC games using it. Where the HTPC is slim, cool and silent the gaming rig is big, powerful and noisy. Finding a good compromise between these two extremes is challenging and much like trying to cross a cat with an elephant.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">To build a good HTCP you would want a PC with a decent storage, capable of high definition (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-definition_video">HD</a>) video playback. It should look good in your living room, be small, slim and silent and have a high <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman_acceptance_factor">WAF</a> rating. Most modern computers with an integrated graphic chip coupled with a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPU">CPU</a> with low power requirements are able to do the job. Low power requirements mean limited heat which again means no or only very few fans for cooling. Platforms based on AMD&#8217;s 780 or Nvidias GeForce 8300 based chipsets have for these reasons been popular.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">A gaming rig should produce as many <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygon">polygons</a> as possible per second. To do this you need a very power hungry CPU and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPU">GPU</a>. Power means heat, and to move this heat away from the CPU and the GPU you will need large coolers and a lot of fans. This combined with the fact that most graphics cards are quite long you would want a quite large case for this gaming computer.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">
<p style="text-align: left;">For fans there are some simple rules. The larger the fan is the more hot air does it move per second. The higher the velocity of the fan is the more air does it move per second but the noise will rise to unbearable levels.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Requirements</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">So let us look at the requirements for a HTPC/Gaming computer. I&#8217;ll start with the one which are absolute. Since I have a girlfriend it has to look good! Looking good would in this case mean black (to match the other equipment), small and probably shiny.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Second, it should be powerful enough to run modern PC games at resolutions up to 1920*1080. This would include a large and hot graphics card which requires cooling and a pretty deep case. I will also need a decent CPU which would require good cooling. Big tower coolers like <a href="http://www.thermalright.com/new_a_page/product_page/cpu/u120ex/product_cpu_cooler_u120ex.htm?art=MTQyMywxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==">TRUE</a> could reach up 160mm but they could be fitted with one or two 120mm fans.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Third, it should be silent. This would include water cooling or really big coolers and several large fans at low velocity. Water cooling would have been fun but it is a bit expensive and I don&#8217;t really bother right now. Since I am no millionaire it cannot be too expensive either.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">To sum up, it should be a large good looking case which looks small and has room for large coolers, large fans, long graphics cards and a couple of hard drives. Most HTPC cases are small so it is a bit of a challenge to find something which matches all these requirements. However, after searching the web for a long time I found some candidates. And the nominees are:</p>
<p><a href="http://oyvindhauge.com/blog/wp-content/fusionblack430_q.jpg"><strong>Antec Fusion 430 Black</strong></a></p>
<p><a href="http://oyvindhauge.com/blog/wp-content/fusionblack430_q.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-155 alignright" title="fusionblack430_q" src="http://oyvindhauge.com/blog/wp-content/fusionblack430_q-150x150.jpg" alt="Antec Fusion 430 Black" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">This case looks great, uses two 120mm fans for cooling, the critics are great and the price is quite good (about 1200 NOK = 150€). Unfortunately, a bit too small (<span style="color: #333333;">445mm (W) x </span><span style="color: #333333;">146mm (H) x 414mm (D)) for my planned PC.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">
<p style="text-align: left;">Review:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1158">Bjorn3d</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.silentpcreview.com/article591-page1.html">Silentpcreview</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/antec-fusion-430-htpc-case,1760.html">Tomshardware</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.3dgameman.com/content/view/6597/48/">3dGameMan</a> (if you can call these reviews <img src='http://www.oyvindhauge.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</li>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=81820"><strong>Antec Performance One P182</strong></a></p>
<p><a href="http://oyvindhauge.com/blog/wp-content/p182_q.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-156 alignright" title="p182_q" src="http://oyvindhauge.com/blog/wp-content/p182_q-150x150.jpg" alt="Antec Performance One P182" width="150" height="150" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Another case from Antec. I really love this one, it costs less than 1000 NOK (125€), it is big (<span style="color: #333333;">520mm (H) x 210mm (W) x 510mm (D)</span>) and has a lot of space for hardware, coolers and five 120mm fans. Unfortunately it is a tower, not a desktop case. If I was looking for a pure gaming rig I would have gone for this one but since it has to fit in the living room it is a no go.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Reviews:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1091">Bjorn3d</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.silentpcreview.com/article741-page1.html">Silentpcreview</a></li>
</ul>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="http://www.silverstonetek.com/products/p_contents.php?pno=cw02&amp;area="><strong>Silverstone CW02</strong></a></p>
<p><a href="http://oyvindhauge.com/blog/wp-content/cw02b.gif"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-152 alignright" title="cw02b" src="http://oyvindhauge.com/blog/wp-content/cw02b-150x150.gif" alt="Silverstone CW02 Black" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">This case is another beauty, at least in my eyes. It is quite tall (435 mm (W) x 225mm (H) x 440 mm (D)) and a large cooler should fit inside. It has quite large fans with one 120mm fan and two 92mm fans. Unfortunately it got a pretty low WAF rating, it is a bit expensive (3800 NOK = 450€) and it could be a problem to fit long graphics cards so was not a winner.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Reviews</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.xtremecomputing.co.uk/story.php?id=4780">XtremeComputing</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.3dgameman.com/content/view/9720/103/">3dGameMan</a></li>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="http://www.silverstonetek.com/products/p_contents.php?pno=lc20&amp;area="><strong>Silverstone LC-20</strong></a></p>
<p><a href="http://oyvindhauge.com/blog/wp-content/lc20m.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-154 alignright" title="lc20m" src="http://oyvindhauge.com/blog/wp-content/lc20m-150x150.jpg" alt="Silverstone LC-20m" width="150" height="150" /></a></p>
<p>This case has room for in total two 92mm and three 80mm fans. It is fairly large (430 mm (W) x 170 mm (H) x 430 mm (D)) but neither really large coolers nor long graphics cards would fit. It got an overall good WAF rating and the price is attractive (about 1000/1500 NOK or 125/200€ without/with the LCD ). However, there is something to it which I did not like. 80mm fans are perhaps a bit small and there is not plenty of room inside of it.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Reviews</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.devhardware.com/c/a/Computer-Cases/Silverstone-LC20-Case-Review/">DevHardware</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.dreamwarecomputers.com/reviews_2006/silverstone_lc20/index.htm">DreamWare Computers</a></li>
</ul>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong><a href="http://lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_index=263&amp;cl_index=1&amp;sc_index=25&amp;ss_index=64"><strong>Lian Li PC-C32B</strong></a></strong><a href="http://oyvindhauge.com/blog/wp-content/c32q02.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-159 alignright" title="c32q02" src="http://oyvindhauge.com/blog/wp-content/c32q02-150x150.jpg" alt="Lian Li PC C32B" width="150" height="150" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">This is the case I selected. It is no way near flawless but it is a decent compromise. It is very deep (426mm (W) x 167mm (H) x 530mm (D)) which would allow long graphics cards, and standard ATX motherboards and power supplies to enter. It has room for two 120mm and one 80mm fans. Coolers up to 140mm should enter according a very helpful forum user at <a href="http://hw.no">hw.no</a> . The fans should according to some reviews be replaced with some, less nosier ones. The fact that the case is pretty deep is also somewhat of a problem because it will take a lot of space in the living room. Hopefully this will not be too much of a problem. The price was about 1700 NOK (210€). It looks great (without the rack mount handles) and it got a very good WAF rating.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I am eagerly waiting for it to arrive in the mail tomorrow or one of the next few days and I will probably post some images when I get my hands on it. Having decided on the case it only remains to decide on all the other parts of the PC &#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Reviews</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.xsreviews.co.uk/reviews/cases/lian-li-pc-c32/">XSReviews</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.virtual-hideout.net/reviews/Lian-Li_PC-C32_Case/index.shtml">Visual-Hideout</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.caseumbau.de/index.php?page=test538/test538">CaseUmbau</a> (in German)</li>
</ul>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>Some Case Providers</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I found several other nice cases when searching for this one and I recommend you to check out the following if you are looking for a HTPC case yourself.</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.3rsys.com/english/main.asp">3RSystem</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.antec.com">Antec</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.chieftec.com/">Chieftec</a></li>
<li><a href="http://lian-li.com/">Lian Li</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.origenae.com/en/index.htm">OrigenAE</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.silverstonetek.com/">Silverstone</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/">Thermaltake</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/main.asp">Zalman</a></li>
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